Friday, 25 November 2011

News: Rumour Roundup, WoC, VC and Empire

Some rumours regarding the next three armies that apperas to be Vampire counts in Jan, then Empire and then in Q4 2012 Warriors of Chaos, the last one according to 75hastings69 over at Warseer which is one of the best and most reliable rumour sources on the forum. Sadly he also says this will be his final rumour post.

Here's his post, the original post and the rest of the thread can be found here.

Looks like there won't come a new Warrior kit in the near future, I would have liked to see a upgrade sprue of some sorts as the models looks good, but it need more weapons options like Halberds.

Warriors of Chaos

Post by 75hastings69:

Well you'll be seeing these guys sooner than a lot of people think

So I thought I'd give you a heads up on what to expect and when to expect them.

plastic chariot/warshrine
plastic forsaken
plastic Dragon Ogres
a Large plastic kit (that I'll leave as a surprise )
Finecrap Characters

At the moment WoC are due toward Q4 2012 (after VC, Empire and some random WFB models & waves).

This is my final rumour post as I'm hanging up my rumouring gloves/boots/other equipment. So please enjoy discussing WoC and the above kits.

Comment: Awesome stuff! Would had really liked to see a new kit for Marauders and Chaos Trolls as well and Plastic Hell Cannon and New warriors kit/upgrade kit and... well we can't get all it seems but nothing says it won't come other stuff in a wave later on. Really excited of what kind of model the Large Platic kit is, and plastic Dragon Ogres is great!

And next is VC, which got a nice summary on the first post in this thread at Warseer. The summary and some of the rumours is from one most reliable rumour posters, Harry. This post is just copy/pasted from the first post.

Will it be Skeletons or Ghouls (or both?!) as the main Core choice in the next Army Book? Here's some of my Mantic minis.

Vampire Counts

Originally Posted by Harry
I said : I had VC, Empire and Dwarves in the frame.

Originally Posted by ihavetoomuchminis
And VC come in January. Believe it or not.

Originally Posted by 75hastings69
The WD VC article should be viewed as a stop gap between books, terrorgheist will be in proper print much quicker than some people may imagine

Hastings also mentioned new Krell mini coming:

Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Wait till you see the other new vc stuff new krell anyone?

some time ago flesh golems and black coach appeared in the rumour-mill:

Originally Posted by Harry
Yeah but you wouldn't say no to a plastic black coach and some flesh Golems would you.

Originally Posted by Tonny
Ah yes, I think Hastings mentioned the Flesh Golems.
I am quite exited about a new VC book

Originally Posted by Harry
He did. The concept art for them is very cool. Half way between a big zombie and a ghoul with lots of stitching,

Originally Posted by Harry (in reply to Huan Qu'itt post ... 'unless I am reading to much into Harry post about a new black coach kit')
Nope, you are reading fine.

Originally Posted by ihavetoomuchminis
It seems that the Black Coach will be a dual kit.

Originally Posted by ihavetoomuchminis
About the Monstruous infantry unit, i've been told that they are more of Big ghouls than big zombies. Oh, and the models can have something no MI in the game have yet..... maybe something like the terrorgheist, but smaller? Don't know, just guessing.

Originally posted by Frgt/10
Heard about this a while ago but wasn't sure what to make of it. Seems there might be something to it though:

The next army to go on stock rundown in GW stores is Vampires.

This is before things like Empire which some people have been whispering about as well; so my money would be on the toothy ones being released first.

A summary of the rumours so far:

- VC are next army book to be released (Harry, 75hastings69 Frgt/10), in january (ihavetoomuchminis)
- new unit "flesh golems" - something like a mix of large ghoul and zombie with a lot of stitches (Harry, 75hastings69, ihavetoomuchminis) with something no monsterous infantry has had before (ihavetoomuchminis)
- new plastic black coach mini (Harry), dual kit (ihavetoomuchminis, Harry)
- new krell and female vampire minis (75hastings69)
- and some old rumour concerning new plastic black knights - (Riders confirmed by Harry but not "black knights").

Thanks to Huan Qu'itts for pulling all this together.

Some bits from me. The 'black coach kit' is not a straight replacement (like say the steam tank was for the Empire) and it is a dual kit. Also, we do get riders ... but they are not straight replacement for the black knights either.

Some more stuff from this thread from me:

Harry, can you confirm these riders are not surfers?
Yes ... They are not surfing.

There is a black coach that isn't exactly a black coach and it makes something else thats defo not a black coach.
There are riders that are not black knights thats another thing.
Obviously the Terrorgeist will be in.
Hastings said there is a new mini for Krell so he will be in ... so at least one new character.
The female Vampire could be seen as a return to the book of the Lahmian Bloodline.
So Yes I would say there are plenty of rumours for new stuff.
My understanding is the book has five new units + Lords/Heroes.
That is alot of exciting new options/builds.

Posted by NatTreehouse

What I know:
New Black Knights/Some other mounted stuff kit
New Dual Kit makes two war machine things, NEITHER is a Black Coach
Monstrous Infantry Dual Kit
Ghouls up to 10pts
Current Black Coach kit stays and goes finecost
February release.

But opinions vary ....

Posted by frgt/10

What I know:
New Dual Kit makes two war machine things, NEITHER is a Black Coach
Current Black Coach kit stays and goes finecost
February release.
this is all incorrect from what im hearing

Backed up by ihavetoomuchminis:

Frgt 10 is right, that info is all wrong from what i've been told.

But Harry throws his lot in with Nattreehouse:

I think most of what Nattreehouse says sounds about right.
The duel Black Coach kit in which neither is exactly a black coach Check.
The current black coach staying and going finecast. Check ... which along with the plague cart gives you a fair few 'wagon type war machines' to go at.
Duel Monsterous infantry. Check
I hadn't considered a duel cavalry kit.
I know about new cavalry ... so assumed no Black Riders ... but a duel kit is doable.

Hastings has posted to say the dual monsterous Infantry kit has the option to make winged mostrosities.

Exciting isn't it?


Comment: Some new info other than the stuff I wrote in the last Roundup. And some really neat things as well, Flesh golems, Warmachines, a new type of cavalry (some rumours say wraith cav, much like the LOTR ringwraiths, ethereal etc. ) Some rumours also says that Bloodlines will get an return and not function as it does today, I personally hope this is right and I also want to see the return of Necromancer Lords and generally better Necromancers.

And for last some rumours about Empire, not much new and I didn't find a great sum up but here's one from Darnok over at Warseer, look at the original thread here.

Will there be a War Altar kit and rules for other deities as well in the next AB? According to rumours there is.


It seems that even though winter is fast approaching, birds are still singing:

Originally Posted by Birdy
So i understand empire will get 4 kits. Knights obviously. 2 character ones (cant properly remember which ones but if you notice the priest of morr rules i would guess WP's will get a kit). And a new war atlar. The Altar kit will be a dual kit. The second option will be a Nuln seige cannon. Massive cannon used to defend the walls of nuln.
I can't comment on how solid these are. But it's not the first - and probably not the last - I've heard over the last few weeks. It seems to me like the Empire is not too far away, meaning somewhere in the next six months.

Something more: the knight mentioned are supposedly not replacements of the current knights, but demi-gryph knights. See Warhammer Forge for reference.

Something more from 75hastings69, thanks too:

Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post
Empire are not getting updates of current knights, there are different cav coming though. The old crappy horses/knights remain. War altar makes something else, but afaik it's not a cannon of any kind.
And another birdy sings:

Originally Posted by Birdy #2
Plastic War alter kit which only makes a war altar, but a war altar that can be either of Morr, Sigmar or Ulric.

New Monstrous Cavalry, possibly Demigriffons, which comes with separate saddles and harnesses, so they can also be used as bound monsters in SOM without conversion.
 Comment: Yeah pretty much the stuff from the last Roundup, but there's some new stuff as well. One character kit looks to be a plastic griffon with a generic lord and Karl Franz himself! That's all I'm afraid, there's much OT and wishlisting in the thread right now and hopefully new rumours will show up soon.

Edit:  Later I saw this post as well on the Empire thread on Warseer;

Originally Posted by NatTreehouse
I just got told in this release:
Dual kit makes Warshrine/College of Magic Wizardlordmobile.
Comment: Sounds really promising, can't wait for more rumours about the Empire.

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